Interesting, but that has little to do with God allowing animals to suffer..
The Quiet One
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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Did Cedars manipulate Lee into having a thread closed?
by cedars ini will happily answer this question if there can be some guarantees this thread won't be deleted..
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The Quiet One
Apostating- posting guideline 10. Maybe start a new thread, you sound like you are stirring.
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Stands For True Worship. I am turning myself in......
by DATA-DOG injust answer this question in an honest and unbiased way, free from any circuitous reasoning or speculation.
if you do so, i swear to my heavenly father, that i will call the elders tonight and turn myself in.
any active jw may answer this question.
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Can one find God without studying the Bible?
by Dis-Member ini don't recall jesus ever once telling people that they should even read the bible to find god.. he said nothing about 'taking in knowledge' either.. .
he didn't encourage people to read the bible because 90% of people in his day couldn't read!
the bible was not read by most people, it was -heard- when someone else read it aloud.
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To turn the question on its head..
“Properly read, the Bible is the most potent force for atheism ever conceived.” - Isaac Asimov -
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Stands For True Worship. I am turning myself in......
by DATA-DOG injust answer this question in an honest and unbiased way, free from any circuitous reasoning or speculation.
if you do so, i swear to my heavenly father, that i will call the elders tonight and turn myself in.
any active jw may answer this question.
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The Quiet One
I'm grateful that somebody bothered to read my post.. Thank you.
I don't think SFPW is a hypocrite, I think he is pretending to be an apologist to make people think. I've been told to be quiet, though, so that is my last word on the matter.. ;) -
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250,000 Jehovah's Witnesses have died refusing blood
by nicolaou in80+ branch davidian cult members died in waco, texas.
250,000+ #jehovahswitnesses have died refusing blood.
stop this #cult!
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The Quiet One
Couldn't this Simon and Cedars discussion be moved, to a new topic perhaps? *ducks for cover* (then please delete this, there's enough clutter here as it is)
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Stands For True Worship. I am turning myself in......
by DATA-DOG injust answer this question in an honest and unbiased way, free from any circuitous reasoning or speculation.
if you do so, i swear to my heavenly father, that i will call the elders tonight and turn myself in.
any active jw may answer this question.
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The Quiet One
And here's another gem from SFPW.. : "Proverbs 4:18 comes to mind which I know is a verse some of you here take umbrage with and I don’t entirely knock that as I think it’s been used to justify changes when the context of the verse on the surface doesn’t really support how the WT has used it. I think they know it too which is why they’ve lately begun moving away from that along with the phrase “new light” being replaced by, adjustments."
Do you guys get what he's doing now?...
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Stands For True Worship. I am turning myself in......
by DATA-DOG injust answer this question in an honest and unbiased way, free from any circuitous reasoning or speculation.
if you do so, i swear to my heavenly father, that i will call the elders tonight and turn myself in.
any active jw may answer this question.
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The Quiet One
SFPW said: "I have to say, all of this reminds me of something I read from an author that I’ve come to appreciate in recent years. He said, “The man who finds a truth lights a torch.”
..For those who might miss what he is doing here, the writer he refers to is
Robert Green Ingersoll. Here is an example of his works..
http://www.infidels.org/library/historical/robert_ingersoll/some_mistakes_of_moses.html
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Stands For True Worship. I am turning myself in......
by DATA-DOG injust answer this question in an honest and unbiased way, free from any circuitous reasoning or speculation.
if you do so, i swear to my heavenly father, that i will call the elders tonight and turn myself in.
any active jw may answer this question.
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The Quiet One
That was quoted from 2 days ago, btw..
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Theists, why does God allow suffering..
by The Quiet One in..specifically, the suffering of animals.
you can talk about free will/sin/people choosing to not listen to god etc to explain human suffering being allowed.. but how can you love a god that allows animals, that haven't sinned or chosen to not have anything to do with god, to have their short lives ended in often long, drawn out, painful ways.
i could list stories i've read that would probably make you feel ill, but i'm not looking to shock anyone or start an emotional debate.
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The Quiet One
" All those creatures, from the smallest to the largest, had the Creator’s loving concern. God not only created them “instinctively wise” but also made provisions for them to flourish in their environment. "
http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/102011444